I don’t see there being much difference between the old and new fire control.
I believe you have been sent done a rabbit hole.
Seriously the first laptop I used had win7. Ran fire control and f360. It was so old I am sure the hard drive was stone tablets.
I don’t believe you computer is your problem completely anyways.
Well, I can tell you that I did NOT read EVERY SINGLE post on this forum, like you did. And when I tried to turn my air pressure way up as you said was causing my issues in the beginning, that’s what made the O/C light come on on my first Plasma Cutter, that ultimately had to be replaced. So, your advice has been just nothing but helpful. Thanks for that!
If you read into it it’s only certain outdated versions of Windows 10. it would be unlikely anyone is running an old version of windows 10 unless they have not done a windows updated in two or three years.
I need to go back and try to upgrade (update?) again, @TinWhisperer. It wouldn’t let me do it when I tried when 10 first came out, but maybe something has changed. I’ve invested a lot of time in learning Fusion 360, far beyond the scope of its usefulness for our tables. I’d like to be able to keep using it.
There actually is a difference, they have (FireControl 21.1.5 for compatability issues) and the langmuire site list the absoulte **(Minimum computer requrements) for the computer. Fusion 360 will not longer support Windows 10 after March 2023. Look at something like this computer to operate the programs and the table. https://a.co/d/8a4sHbL
There is graphics hardware comparability issues yes. Other than that system requirements are the same right? . If that was his issue that is a easy remedy.
I will check my computer specs this afternoon. It is a old school reject .
Casey only want to run fire control not fusion.
It is like this people telling him he needs a new computer he will give up. He needs to try 20.6
I’m not necessarily going to “give up”, @Phillipw, but I can’t see spending ~$800 on a laptop that’s going to get killed with metal dust in the shop, yet, spending $400-500 on one that can be considered disposable, and realizing that I’m also going to have to spend a bunch more on another new house computer for design is a really hard pill to swallow.
I’m just out of money. @rat196426 was nice enough to point out that I’m lost, and didn’t do my homework; I thought I had. Some of you guys are real crepehangers, and the sad part is, you probably feel like you are being “helpful” while you’re doing it.
Either that or you’re just pissed that I still haven’t “figured it out” despite all of your wonderful advice.
None of this is directed at you, Phillip.
I’m going to go try turning up the air pressure to 150psi on the back of the machine and 200psi out the front. See where that gets me. 
Air pressure caused you no issues, you already had issues you just didn’t know it.
Oh I agree I would tell noone to spend that kind of money. I don’t want to see you quit for sure …
Just trying to point out my first laptop was lucky to be a 64 bit . The one I use now I don’t know what the specs are. A local school trashed them I picked it up. It had no os on it. previously had win 7. I had 10 pro installed it will run f360 and fire control. Although I only logged into f360 and played no hard core work to see if it could.
Well, my desktop wouldn’t support Windows 10, @Phillipw, but it runs 360 like a champ. I modeled my bomber seats in 3D, and they’ve got a lot of geometry (all the rivet holes).
But my brand new Windows 11 laptop struggles to load the flat patterns for these seats in Fusion. I believe it all has to do with the graphics card.
FWIW, I asked Langmuir for a list of incompatible graphics cards, and their response was that they would be more than happy to tell me if the card from any computer I purchased was incompatible. 
Right every program has different requirements. My point was I think you have been lead into a rabbit hole. I have a hard time believing your computer is the problem…
My advise to you would be to address your cable management and emi issues. Then fire up if it doesn’t help try 20.6. before you sink another grand into it. Fire control shouldn’t be that demanding or I wouldn’t have run it for over 2 years.
I learned a new word today. Probably synonymous with engineer… so it’s not my fault. 
Can you provide more insight on the swirl cap… I wasn’t aware that it should have a specific orientation. What have you learned the correct orientation to be?
You guys really need to learn how to use the search funtion.
what are the specs on his current laptop?
He posted them. I just have a hard time believing that it is his computer causing it when his wife turns on the dryer or his air compressor kicks on it freezes up.
The only spec I read that he posted is it is a 1.1 ghz processor which is below the recomended 1.6 ghz. I have no idea how much ram and how much video memory but if it is 1.1 ghz my guess is it is very minimal on both ram and video memory.
It’s 4GB ram and an OpenGL 4.6 video card, so the area it falls short of FireControl’s current minimum recommendation is the processor speed.
It won’t run Fusion worth a darn, but my Windows 7 machine does a good job there…for now.
I hear what you’re saying @ttoy360…I wish I had a better laptop to try, to see if that’s even the issue, before I spend a bunch more money.
@CrazyCasey I just got home from work. I have some hauler steps to get put together when I am done I will try to check my computer specs. It may not be bare bones but it isn’t a screaming demon either. My old laptop is about 15 years old I used it for a year before I busted the screen. Then again if changing versions of fire control to get you goin it is worth it til you recover your money I say give it a try.
I am not saying your computer isn’t part of your problem . There is a several using cheap computers. If it is your computer it will be the first one I remember seeing in 2 years that causes these issues.
Thanks @Phillipw. I’m certainly curious. I’ve been out of town the past few days trying to make some money, but I’ve got a list of stuff to try as soon as I’m back. I’m basically starting with the free stuff, and working my way up to spending money. Gotta un-bond the neutral in my sub-panel, and make the ground return to the main panel per John’s recommendation (previous owner did it all wrong and my inspector didn’t catch it ), and then I’m moving the plasma further from the electronics enclosure and trying to do some better cable management. Last step will be installing 20.6, and I’ll be making cuts at each iteration to check my progress. I’ll consider a different laptop, I guess, if none of this works. And I’m going to try and make it all happen before next weekend.
I am so appreciative of your help, and of you trying to stick up for me here and there. I realize I’ve been a little pissy since FireControl locked up and broke my table, but some of the remarks on here have been down-right condescending, and anything but helpful.
I’m not trying to shirk my own responsibility here; I obviously didn’t research this thing as well as I should have, but I did a LOT of research. And unfortunately, I took to the Facebook “Support Group” before I really took to the forum, and, as I said earlier, this laptop Christmas deal was actually recommended by several of the users on there, and since it was “a brand new computer” I just didn’t question whether or not it would work. That’s just my own inexperience coming through; the last time I bought a new computer from a reputable source, it was more or less impossible to buy something that was already outdated, but I guess the technology was moving even faster back then…
Anyway, thank you for everything! You, @ds690, @DnKFab, @mechanic416, @Bigdaddy2166, @ChelanJim, and @72Pony have all been IMMENSELY HELPFUL! And @TinWhisperer has been really helpful too, but his bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired. 
Sorry not sorry. I’m also sure I’m forgetting people, and I apologize.
I’m going to make one final run at the this thing before I throw in the towel.
