Thoughts on switching to "Sterling Cool"

Ok fellas,

My table is getting a wee bit “nasty.”…Nothing too serious, but I would like to “head it off at the pass”.

I’m not talking about the “metal schmeck” at the bottom, but the overall, rust/molding/'white stuff" that I am experiencing.

I originally used some Borax, and that worked fairly well for “short term” rust prevention, and I was/am fairly satisfied.

So my question is “How long does Sterling Cool keep the table “Un-Nasty” for?”

I am cool with spending “the dough” on it, if I can keep a table full of 'water" for months at a time vs. “weeks at a time”.

Thoughts?

I use Sterling Cool, and it lasts a pretty long time.
If you think it will be like a swimming pool, then no. If I let the suspended matter reach the bottom overnight, you can pump the water back into your storage tank. Borax never worked out for me. I used the leftover Borax to add to my laundry. A 5 gal container lasts me six months or so.

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It would help to add a 25-gallon container underneath the table to store the water. I can’t imagine you not having one by now.

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So here is the “rub” with that, that maybe you can help with.

Why do people have these “complex storage/draining systems” for their tables?

I get it if “sterling cool” is that expensive, but it appears that some people use them for “regular water with borax”

Am I “reading it” wrong?

Would filling with just regular water and draining after each use be better?

No, you’re right. Most use Sterling Cool and hold it in a tank underneath the table




Mine works great and uses a pump. Most guys use gravity-style tanks and air pressure to move the water back into the table. It’s not expensive. Five gals is less than $200 and lasts for months. It is impossible to clean your table if you can’t store the liquid somewhere. If you choose to use water, drain it and refill it when you like. A consideration, too, is freezing weather in unheated shops. I don’t know where you live, but consider wintertime. I take it back I see you live in Michigan. Roll Tide😜

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Standing fluid and water is bad. You’re seeing this for yourself with the table gunk. Also, the cutting fluid is a little more dense and will sink and separate when it sits so if you plan on just filling and topping off; it will get nasty anyway if you aren’t using it frequently. So draining and filling is the cleanest way to go about keeping things in order. Can’t drain and fill quickly unless you set up a system. I just use pvc piping and van stone flanges with a harbor freight pump plumbed in. Holding tank is an rv water tank.

But hey, you do “you”. Lol

I guess to answer your exact question, you can leave water in it, but you better be using it frequently or it will still separate and get nasty. Most of us drain and fill.

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Thanks guys, that makes a lot of sense, especially now that I see for myself what is happening.

I guess I have another “project” to add to the list.

:+1: :+1:

The 16 gallon spray tanks from farm supply stores work pretty well.

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I run Sterling Cool in my XR table and love the stuff. I have a 75-gallon tank system setup with a gravity drain through a filter and pump refill setup. Takes about 10 minutes to fill when i need to use the table. Sterling Cool is good stuff, just have it drain away when not in use so you don’t lose any to evaporation

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Yea, finding a decent storage volume that will fit under a crossfire pro table is difficult. Ask me how I know. You aren’t wanting to store potable water in it, but that’s all you’re going to find “new” on the market. I found a guy selling off 30gal white plastic barrels (lids fixed, with 2 threaded ports) that were used for industrial soap for a car wash. It fits on its side, but def not much more room to add any wheels or anything to make it movable.

I added a 50 micron inline filter, and have it gravity draining, and electrical pumping back up through a check valve.

This way, the coolant in the tank is clean, isolated, and kept away from light (because algae), and won’t destroy the pump impeller on the way back to the tank. As an added bonus, it backflushes the filter as a side feature.

I used mostly stainless to avoid as much galvanic as I could, and pipe doped everything with Rectorseal 31631.

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That’s a nice clean setup. You had a new water pan made right? I’d love to ditch my dual drains.

I used a similar style filter briefly, but it clogged too fast. I just let the fine debris settle, gave up on trying to filter it.

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Yes, I had a single volume pan bent up.

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Find these basketball hoop bases all the time people throwing out on garbage day, works great under my pro for years now.

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Im running one of these barrels with 2 water tank bulhead type fittings. Easy to clean out also. I refill off 5lbs of air pressure. I also have a 5 gallon settling bucket everthing drains into first then it feeds over to this barrel. All the gunk stays in the 5 gallon barrel. Everything has valves in between them to utilize the air refill.
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Rural King spray tank, pex, and some flex hose. I generally fill to about 1/2" or so of the slat tops and this 16 gallon tankk holds all my table contents.

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Thanks for all the ideas guys. I appreciate it.

It seems as though there are endless possibilities.

I am waiting on my “air dryer” parts now, and will tackle that first.

Then it’s time to tackle the table fluid.

Lots of great ideas and "cool ideas’ to sort though.

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Correct priorities: Air is priority #1…or is it “Happy Wife”? I always get those mixed up.

Probably did it again :thinking: :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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I am looking at sterling cool for my water table. It says nontoxic but was wondering if anyone has used it around pets because my dogs are always in my shop with me “helping” and don’t want them to lick up any splatters

Welcome to the forum.

I think that is a question you might direct to the company and see what their response would be?
I have the product and it seems rather benign but I would not want to drink it.

Lots of things can mess up dogs: chocolate, onions and mushrooms…not together necessarily.

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I love dogs, but a plasma arc on their eyes and the metal pieces parts are not in a dog’s best interest. Although it says nontoxic, the Sterling Cool cannot be good regardless—just my two cents, as usual.
Dogs are better than people, but a metal shop is out of the question for me. Those dogs on the TV shows are never around more than an episode or two.

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