Help with torch partially firing(Solved) low air pressure

Hello

I am coming here asking for help to pick crossfire users brains. I have a crossfire pro since I’ve gotten it. I have only been able to run two full programs after that I get partial cuts. I’ve changed my pierce height my cutting height my pierced delay. I’ve contacted Langmuir about this. They have sent me out a new motion control board a new torch firing relay and now they’re talking about sending out a torch height, controller, and barrels Block electronic interference in cables. if anyone does have any ideas or possible solutions to try and troubleshoot it so I’m not just throwing apart after part please let me know.

We have fired the torch manually in fire control, and with a wire . Trying to to fire it without the THC . I am just trying to find answers to get up and running so I can get parts out to my customers. By the way, I’ve also used multiple types of steel and move my grounding clamp all over the place.

Thank you

Try to use the straight line cutting ability of fire control to run some long straight cuts?

Does it predictably turn off at the exact same amount of inches?

Does the plasma cutter itself code anything when it’s shutting off?

Do you have some kind of blockage in your air system that’s acting like a orifice ? I doubt that cuz normally the hypertherm needs to be reset manually and doesn’t automatically reset if you have an air problem. edit: i was wrong about the manual reset for the air issue. It will give a warning light but the warning light will turn off once pressure is restored.

I would try doing some straight line cuts through fire control and see if it’s turning off at the same amount of inches.

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I did two straight line cuts one at 5 inches and one at 10. 5 inches was able to cut the whole program for the 10 inch I got 7 5/8

If you had somebody help you where you could manually travel the torch in fire control and have somebody short out the trigger for the torch. will the cut stay engaged as long as it’s being shorted out while manually traveling across the sheet? I think this might ultimately tell you whether it’s the plasma cutter or fire control ( table electronics).

Is fire control stopping the trigger or is the hypertherm stopping the trigger?

Here’s an example of jumping out the trigger circuit.

Obviously this is a dangerous do at your own risk endeavor.

I’ll try that in a second I have reinstalled fire control three times and went into the directory with Lang mere telling me what to do deleting files and reinstalling fire control today.

I did the test and it stopped firing 7” in

I don’t know who Langmuir is using for support lately, but they don’t seem to understand the machines. They seem to be just throwing random parts at issues.

This is not going to be a Firecontrol issue. It’s either a plasma cutter issue or an issue with a physical component in the electronics enclosure.

I don’t see where you said what plasma cutter you are using,. Is this a Hypertherm machine?

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Hypertherm 45 sync with sync cable

They have sent me a motion control board the fire and relay for the motion control board because they forgot that the original one was glued in. Next week they’re sending me a new THC box and they said if this doesn’t work they’re sending me a whole new electronic closure box. I just got my machine in November and set it up a week before Christmas..

What kind of air supply do you have? Any chance you are running out of air? Voltage drops even?

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60gal 11.3 cfm at 90psi

And volt stay steady it’s on its own dedicated circuit new installed by electrician not even a month ago

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Have you tried yet to manually set the height and manually move the torch in fire control with the arrow keys while somebody else shorts out the trigger circuit? Just make sure you set the ipm with the jog speed to roughly the IPM you would use on whatever material thickness you’re testing on. Can you use a piece of 10 gauge to set your height before you start.

depending on the results of this test I’m sure it will let you know whether it’s the fire control electronics or the plasma cutter causing the issue.

Yes I did I thought I replied to your earlier post .

I tried it twice and got about 7 “ (177.8mm) on each cut

I wasn’t sure if you’re talking about my test or after you reinstalled fire control.

Time to phone Hypertherm if it’s not coding any issues out relating to air.

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Well they are sending me a new thc Monday. If this don’t work they are sending me a new electronic cabinet.

Well the test kind of proves it has nothing to do with the Langmuir side of it.

If you’re shorting the cable to fire the plasma out nothing should turn it off besides the Hyperthem unit itself or removing the jumper shorting it.

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This technique is known as swapnostics.

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If they replace everything on my cross fire and it don’t fix it will they replace the plasma cutter to

My 2nd worry is down the road they my warranty expires . Am I going have to keep paying for part that don’t fix the problem. I am not a millionaire