Water in air lines?

@SouthBend9 looks like a decent refrigerated air dryer.

What advantages (STEP UP) were you seeing between these two devices?

Specification Central Pneumatic Industrial Keltec KRAD-15
Brand Central Pneumatic Industrial Keltec
Model Not specified KRAD-15
Price $599.99 $1,215.48
Electrical Rating 110–120 VAC / 60 Hz 115 VAC / 60 Hz
Horsepower 1/4 HP Not specified
Air Inlet/Outlet Size 1/2 Steel Pipe - 14 NPT 1/2 NPT
Flow Capacity (CFM) 21.6 CFM 15 CFM
CFM Range Fixed at 21.6 CFM Rated for up to 30 CFM
Operating Pressure (PSI) 100 PSI recommended / 140 PSI max 230 PSI max
Pressure Drop Not specified <3 PSI
Refrigerant R-134A R-134A
Refrigerant Pressure / Temp 32–39 PSI (2–8°C) Not specified
Maximum Inlet Temp (°F) Not specified 140°F
Maximum Ambient Temp (°F) Not specified 122°F
Dimensions (inches) Not specified 16.26 × 14.29 × 21.92
Weight Not specified 70.54 lbs
Maximum Working Pressure 140 PSI 230 PSI
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Thanks TinW; I am wary of the HF dryer only due to reviews. Your additional info is very helpful. I run a fairly low “compressor” pressure (118 max) probably due to the age of my compressor. Would I be correct in assuming MOST users here running the HF dryer are happy with their units? I’m also looking at a Hankison HPR5-10 which I can get for about $765. THX!

:white_check_mark: Side-by-Side Specifications

Specification Central Pneumatic Industrial Keltec KRAD-15 HPRS-10
Brand Central Pneumatic Industrial Keltec HPR/HPRN
Model Not specified KRAD-15 HPRS-10
Price $599.99 $1,215.48 $765
Electrical Rating 110–120 VAC / 60 Hz 115 VAC / 60 Hz 115 VAC / 60 Hz
Horsepower 1/4 HP 1/7 HP Not specified
Air Inlet/Outlet Size 1/2" Steel Pipe - 14 NPT 1/2" NPT 3/8" OD
Flow Capacity (CFM) 21.6 CFM 15 SCFM 10 SCFM
Operating Pressure (PSI) 100 PSI recommended / 140 PSI max 30–250 PSI max 250 PSI max
Pressure Drop Not specified <3 PSI Not specified
Refrigerant R-134A R-134A R-134A
Maximum Inlet Temp (°F) Not specified 140°F 120°F
Maximum Ambient Temp (°F) Not specified 122°F Not specified
Minimum Ambient Temp (°F) Not specified 40°F Not specified
Dimensions (inches) Not specified 16.26 × 14.29 × 21.92 15 × 13 × 13
Weight Not specified 70.54 lbs 64 lbs
Input Power Not specified 0.24 kW 0.2 kW
Maximum Working Pressure 140 PSI 230 PSI 250 PSI
Cooling Type Not specified Not specified Air-cooled
Certification Not specified Not specified UL/CSA-ETL Certified

I don’t know what to tell you for the harbor freight version, it’s not the refrigerated air dryer I have. The biggest problem with these air dryers is normally people piping them into systems with too much pressure drop and having to deal with too much temperature and when they don’t work well they blame the equipment instead of realizing that the issue was them not understanding the limitations of the equipment.

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Only speaking for myself, I have the HF dryer and have no problems. I live in a very wet area (western Washington state). I have at least 3 water traps, the transmission cooler and my “mission to Mars” 100 foot coil of 1/2 inch pex line with a 20 inch fan blowing on the transmission cooler and the pex coil all before the air reaches the HF dryer.

I don’t know what is working but I also have various other filters, the auto drain on the tank and a one quart desiccant bead filter.

Now that I think about it, it would be hard for me to review the effectiveness of the air dryer. I just didn’t want to keep modifying my setup so this was my second attempt and I haven’t needed a third revision.

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I’m curious to see what sort of drops in pressure people are seeing with these units.

I ask because I’ve been running one for awhile, always on an air compressor that this entire forum would deem inadequate for my plasma cutter (even if I remove my filtration).

Thanks Jim and TinW! The quest for dry air continues.

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Jim, I just saw the picture of your “system” from a few years back. Throw a Tesla Coil in the middle of it and you could sell tickets! :grinning:. Quite a rig, my friend. Thx, Edward

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Yep. And, it is working just fine. I know it is removing moisture but I don’t know where it is because the water traps aren’t catching anything. I do know it is dry because I have another line that does not go thru all of the drying paraphernalia and when I disconnect things, I feel a light mist of moisture. That does not happen with my dry line.

I don’t like to keep showing it because enough people have seen it. Plus, PEX tubing is not certified/designed for compressed air so I don’t really want to push the idea. I have read lots of posts of people using PEX without problems. One thing to be aware if you do use it, some adapter fittings may not fit snug enough without adaptation. It will leak or completely separate under pressure (perhaps while you are on a road trip with your spouse…don’t ask!!!)

Don’t encourage him! He’s a big show off! If you encourage him, the next thing you’ll see is he’s added another 100 feet of PEX to the loop!

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What is going on here? I leave for a couple of weeks and come back to @Bigdaddy2166 transitioning to a limit switch or something.

Sorry for the distraction carry on with the water issues… At least Jim is still a dog. :joy:

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I’m glad you’re back. Jimmy designed it for me, and I think it fits my persona.

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I’m not sure about that. Well, ok, if I think ‘NO’ Limit switches would be ‘Limitless’, then Yes, absolutely!

Even your cigars know no bounds! :thinking:

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