Trouble with plasma cutter

This has been a journey I’ve posted on here before with the same problem I’ve done the process of elimations. I have a refrigerated air dryer water traps air filters silica beeds motor guard air filter Trimco consumables. I’ve done the testing for pierce delay cut height amps Imp. Nothing seemed to help so I decided to lower my cut height I few hundred thousands the first pic is before I lowered the cut height the second pic. Is after I lowered the cut height. My question is after lowering the cut why did the test peace cut like it should expect for one cut?



Yesterday I was cutting a house sign for my kids friend and had an ugly spot with my hypertherm 45xp. I ended up changing out my electrode and fine cut tip and back to perfect. Anyways sorry for long story but my bet is moisture is wreaking your consumables or maybe replace all your consumables even swirl ring. You didn’t state what plasma your using.

When my tip or electrode went bad it looked just like this…

I’m using Razerweld 45, swirl ring is new. consumables have 56 pierces on them I have good clean air. When your eloctrode went bad was it just one cut that went bad too?

Might as well post all your speed and settings for steel your trying to cut. Let’s understand what your doing if you don’t believe it’s consumables. You shouldn’t have to do much adjusting on your cut chart. Things to check are positive clamp and consumables from my experience

14 gauge 120 IPM 32 amps pierce delay .8 cut height .06
the clamp is on the steel I’m cutting. Tecmo consumables.

The only thing I changed was the cut height from the first pick to the second picture.

My question is when I lowered the cut height why did everything cut as it should except one cut in the second picture.


To it appears that for some reason the cutter didn’t pierce all the way through before it started to move.on that one cut doesn’t make sense to me.

Post gcode

Never posted a gcode how do you do that?

What size are your consumable’s?

I run 45 amps at 110 IPM air at 70-75 on gauge of cutter while cutting.
Bad consumable’s will cut ok then not ok, post a pic of you consumable’s

Super simple and might help you understand what is going on between each of your cuts.

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The electrode looks ok. The tip or nozzle is toast. Looking like the tip is being over amped. IE: 30 amp tip orfice being run at 45 amps.
I’m sure the Hypertherm guys could elaborate.
I thought you said you were using a Razorweld . Those are Hypertherm consumables?

mechanic416

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Langmuir sells them. There are lots of Chinese sellers selling stuff that they say works on the Razorweld.

Do not use Hypertherm consumables on your Razorweld as most of the time they don’t work or cause damage to the torch.

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I have the razor cut 45 w/machine torch (ubhy45 25m) . The unit cut poorly until i bought Hyperthermia consumables. I get pretty decent cuts and haven’t noticed the torch being damaged? But will keep an eye on it. BTW my unit’s air pressure would drop to 60psi while cutting so I adjusted internal regulator to 75 psi - it improved the cutting. Only down side is the table water spray when cutting near table sides.

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I bought them from mechanic416

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Ok thats good. He knows what works and what doesn’t. Still looks like the tip orfice is to small for the amps being run.

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In my post above I cut the test piece at 32 Amps.

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George sold me 45 amp consumables.

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Question ? What is your air pressure while you are cutting? Maybe the internal regulator needs to be adjusted. Sometimes you can have 70 psi at the machine but it drop off due to that internal reg not being able to flow. I see now that you do have good pressure from your previous post. Sorry.

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I turned the internal regulator inside the cutter up all the way. I use an external regulator to adjust the air pressure which was set at 58 PSI also the cuts in the pictures are doss-free.