Tig welding help. Aluminum, Yes Wedler 200P

I finally bit the bullet and acquired a TIG welder.

YesWelder 200P.

Right out of the gate doing steel with minimal cleanup, and only 130A on .250 but joint, I think I did OK. Litterlly first TIG weld.


Butt joint about 1/8 gap. Backside was all fusion weld - no filler, just tried to drag the puddle.

I switched over to try aluminum and I can’t even get an arc pool started. Huge arc circle, then climbs up the electrode.

120A
120Hz
66% Arc Balance
0 slope up and down.
17cfh 100% argon.
Straight AC, not pulsed

Argggg. A little guidance please.

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1/4" @120?

I know, it’s low. Power supply issue for the moment. Need a plug for 220v, so I am running 120

you need double of that minimum.

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Aluminum needs a lot of heat it dissipates fast

Super clean material a must. Pre heat with a torch and brush with stainless steel brush. Use no carbon steel wire brushes ever.

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Went and stole the adapter from the batch plant. 220v, 200a and still not engough ass to get a puddle started on the surface, but at least it does not burn off the electrode as much.

Found some 1/8th and 60a is still a little hot. now I can form and manage a puddle, and do a little filler rod.

2 electrodes gone.

Yup, got all that. Not so worried about sterile yet, just want to start with the basics of forming and managing a puddle.

Might try a little preheat on the 1/4 (might be closer to 5/16).

About out of Argon though.

Aluminum needs to have the oxide layer removed before welding. Oxide forms on the surface pretty quickly, so it needs to be removed right before welding. The oxide melting temperature is much higher than the aluminum, which is probably why you can’t get a puddle going.

I use Scotch Brite to remove the oxide from the welding area.

AC balance is very important for not burning up your tungsten. You need to make sure you know what the balance setting on your machine means. Some machines show the number for the positive and others show the number for negative. I’ve found that 70% EN works well for me with a 2% Lanthanted tungsten.

BTW: I use 2% Lanthanted for everything. It works well for everything I weld and eliminates keeping track of what tungsten I have in the torch.

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Are you using the correct tungsten?

Blue. General purpose all around?

Blue is 2% Lanthanted and should work for almost everything.

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I had my business partner take a look he’s a very decent TIG welder. I can stick things together with the TIG welder.

His main comment is make it super clean and way hotter, the same as the other comments you’ve been getting.

Use all the amps.

And when I went to sheet metal School many years ago my instructor always said.

“If it’s clean enough to eat off of it’s clean enough to weld”

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I like that comment!

Sounds like something my instructor’s would have said.

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Sounds like something my instructor would say. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye::joy:

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Your going to have a real hard time welding aluminum with that welder. It does not have an AC mode to weld aluminum. It is only a DC welder for steel.

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Next level up. TIG-200P-ACDC-PRO AC/DC Aluminum TIG Welder

My bad. 200P

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I was totally looking at the DC version of it as well before you change the text description.

Sorry. I was reading the reviews and on Amazon, the 205P (older version blue and whte) was replaced by this but they did not reset the reviews.

Hate it when I do that.

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If you do not give us the right info then its kind of hard to give you the right answers.

Thank you everyone for your help.

New process for me, I assumed that even with thick and minimal amps you could get a low penetration weld or puddle going - even if it’s a tall bead on the surface.

Thick stuff on the plasma table and now Aluminum TIG…Whole different animal(s).

I know to you experienced peoples those welds are garbage, give me time. I’ve got a whopping 2 hours experience. Should be welding popcans and foil by lunch today if I can get some argon. :wink:

If not, I’ll have to start a POS thread about this welder and demand a refund because it won’t make welds like this

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Don’t make me block you @Sticks :crazy_face:
If you want to master this, you will need a good AC/DC welder with over 200 amps. 1/4-inch alum will require all 200 amps, or you will have to get an Argon / Helium gas blend. Preheating will work, but it is a royal pain in the ass.

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