HYP Fine Cut Consumables HELP

I am looking for guidance from any of you that have had success using fine cut consumables. These are my results trying to use them (again) and I’m having no luck. The results make no sense to me. Cutting the outside part of the circle did not cut all the way through and had massive dross on top, yet it cut several cherry blossoms fine. 14g, 160 (tried up to 200) ipm 45a nominal voltage set to 78 HYP 45XP, IR single stage compressor, refrigerated drier and motor guard filter. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Each time I try the fine cut consumables, these are the results I get. Normal consumables work fine. Using genuine Hypertherm consumables.


What kind of condition are the fine cut consumable in?

Do you mind taking some pictures of them and providing the model numbers of the consumable stack you’re using for fine cut.

Also add a snippet of the first 30 - 50 lines of code the program you’re using.

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That looks like either the work lead is not connected on the steel, or to the plasma cutter,

OR

The gouging button got pressed. Left side of the control panel on the cutter, two LED indicators one above the other. The top one should be lit. If not then push the soft button next to them.

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At the beginningg of the cut, the consumables were fresh out of the package. I’m using Fuion, will post the lines when i get to a computer, photos will have to wait until I get home this evening, I can tell you the part numbers match what is shown in the cut chart.

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@Bastrawn The only difference in what your doing is change from fine cut to 45amp standard consumables ?

How are the regular consumable cuts? Good, passable, ugly but cut?

45a regular parts will cut that thin in gouge or crappy work lead connection.

I guess the next question is - Authentic Hypertherm parts or Cheapest Amazon or Ebay parts?

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Both are connected, ground is attaced to the sheet metal directly. Just prior to this failed attempt with the fine cut consumables, I cut a piece of 3/16 steel and it was fine (using normal consumables). Gouging button isn’t pressed, the cutter is in cutting mode.

One thing I failed to mention was about half way through the cut, the program just stopped, amber lights on the torch status of the table and for quite a bit of time (around 30 secs) there was no error or fault displayed in Firecontrol. I hit pause and then resume and finaaly got the THC alarm stating the torch list fire. No strange display lights on the torch. Generated a code to restart the program at the line of code indicated and it finished the program with these lackluster results.

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@TinWhisperer yes that is all I changed

^^^^^^^^^^^

@Sticks regular consumables cut fine.

Genuine Hyp consumables (better be) purchased at the same welding store where I got the torch.

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Even the flowers look nasty. Check your cut height. THC on or off?

If the THC has voltage sense issues, it will continue to raise the torch until flame out or it might just get the reading it wants, and it won’t care that the cut height is now .5" instead of .06"

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Agreed, all of the cuts are terrible. My earlier statement was that it seems to have cut the flowers better (not perfect) than the outer ring of the pattern.

THC on. I ran the cut height program a few weeks back and it was fine. I don’t believe this is the issue because normal consumables don’t give me this result. I will certainly confirm when I get back home.

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THC is a flaky creature. Mine will act up out of nowhere, even at the same point in a cut program if I re-cut.

I hate THC like @Bigdaddy2166 hates limit switches.

Try it again with THC off.

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Definitely need pictures of exactly what consumables (packaging included) you’re using and how you’re installing them before we troubleshoot this.

Confirming you have a Hypertherm 45xp machine, with a genuine hypertherm duramax machine torch?

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If you did this, any adjustments to had made to cut speed and pierce delay in firecontrol would have defaulted back to the post processor settings. So if you cut quality changed drastically after doing that, there is where you should look.

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@TinWhisperer here are the first 30 or so lines of the code.

(v1.6-af)
G90 G94
G17
G20
H0

(2D Profile2)
G0 X4.9236 Y3.5391
G92 Z0.
G38.2 Z-5. F100.
G38.4 Z0.5 F20.
G92 Z0.
G0 Z0.04 (IHS Springback + Backlash)
G92 Z0.
G0 Z0.15 (Pierce Height)
M3
G4 P0.7
G0 Z0.06 (Cut Height)
H1
G1 X4.8793 Y3.6288 F200.
G3 X4.9475 Y3.4907 I0.0341 J-0.069 F200.
G3 X4.8793 Y3.6288 I-0.0341 J0.069
G1 X4.9236 Y3.5391
H0
M5
G0 Z1.

G0 X2.6673 Y0.6613
G92 Z0.
G38.2 Z-5. F100.
G38.4 Z0.5 F20.
G92 Z0.
G0 Z0.04 (IHS Springback + Backlash)
G92 Z0.
G0 Z0.15 (Pierce Height)
M3

@Sticks will attempt with THC off when I get home this eve (time permitting). If it is THC, it is strange that it only rears it’s ugly head when I am attempting to use fine cut consumables.

@brownfox I am running a Hyp 45XP. I will post pictures of the packaging of the consumables when I get back home. I was getting crappy cuts before the program stopped. I was adjusting feed rate during the cut before and after the program alarmed out.

I didn’t inspect the consumables after this horrific attempt last night, I will remove and inspect those as well.

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I realize that this is not the packaging, but this is the setup I am using for consumables and the part numbers match.

Try it with the standard consumable swirl ring, ensure you’re feeding the hypertherm 100 psi. I would drop the program speed to 140 as well.

Running the standard consumable swirl right will not damage anything.

Live voltage number will help as well. But I’m most curious for the pictures later.

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Even for a Hypertherm, you should do some test cut pieces and adjust from there for the best possible quality.

Going right into cutting a design is just asking for frustrating, along with wasting steel.

I use Finecut just fine with the exact consumable set you posted.

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