I’d like to create a new thread for 25T owners to share their thoughts, requests, and any issues they’ve encountered. Please be respectful and keep in mind that software development takes time and is often balanced with other priorities.
With that in mind, here are some recommendations to streamline the workflow by reducing the number of confirmation dialog boxes. I’ve kept this video unlisted on YouTube and posted only for forum users to start a new conversation.
Software Version 24.1.3
Thank you! Maybe they will listen to you more than me - I think LS should have pinned a feature request topic on the forum the day the first machine shipped out. I’m curious if they are even open or willing to make any changes at all.
When I press the pedal down, I want the ram to come down - when I release the pedal, I want the ram to retract, without having to screen press 4 icons each and every time. The only way to partially do this is in manual mode, and it stops and prompts at each and every movement.
24.1.3 has a significant structural change to how the filesystem is loaded and operated. The way its configured now, you can just turn off the press brake without concerns of filesystem corruption.
We do have people working on improving the machine - we just came out with a completely revamped coding framework for the bendcontrol software eleven days ago. Continuous improvement is our goal.
I’ve pinned the topic. Let the feedback flow.
Thanks Sam
Sure would be cool if we could get this kind of support for the mr1
I agree that old Sam is a valuable person to have around. I bet you all agree, right? He just gives a shit…
Agree, it’s great support that Sam reads and responds in this forum.
The first thing I wished for is the pull down menu for the punch and die selection to be wider so you can also see the part numbers of the punch and die.
Agree, much needed.
Subdirectories for Bend Programs would be great. I’ll need to have 100 or so programs to cover everything I manufacture. Ideally I would like to to be able to have a directory for each category, and then subdirectories for each model in that category. Scrolling through a single drop down is going to be a huge pain.
I wonder how this is addressed on Amada,Trumpf, etc brakes.
I don’t think was ever designed for your scale of Manufacturing! 
I want to make a comment here with regard to Tread/Diamond Plate metal. The thickness I was bending is classified as .125. HOWEVER, the true thickness .125 PLUS the thickness of the “Bumps” on the plate. Therefore, when the punch came down to “Clamp” the material, it encountered more “tonnage” than it expected causing an “over tonnage” error. I would have to clear the error to move on, which included re-homing the machine. Basically starting over. The true thickness as measured by calipers was: .1675" The fix for me was keep upping the thickness till the machine stopped throwing the error. That thickness was about .155.
The issue is the machine now “thinks” metal I am bending is .155 thickness, which changes the tonnage qualifier and presumably the amount of punch to die engagement to achieve the required bend angle.
I have discussed this with Sam and suggested another metal choice to include a Tread Plate choice with a qualifier/field for the additional thickness in various metal types. I use diamond plate steel from time to time as well. It was very frustrating to get through rehoming of the machine over and over until I finally got the work around figured. Sam said that would be a programing “enhancement,” which would take a little time.
So far I love the machine. I was able to use my own elbow grease to finish assembly, which taught me a lot about the machine. That saved me some cash and and gave me a further education. It is true that there are some early bugs, but overall if you are willing to work through these issues I think folks will be happy. BTW I cut the above sheet metal on my Langmuir Crossfire XR, which has the bugs pretty well worked out…
These are all good points. How does your 25T do bending diamond plate with the bumps in the different positions, valley and mountain?
I have only bent from the smooth side on my machine. I don’t think it would be much different either way (just a guess). In other words the bumps to the die…
Guess ill add it here, I don’t check the forum much.
My primary complaint with the machine is the bend cancel upon pedal release. It makes it incredibly difficult to dial a bend in to final position.
Discussing on facebook with Sam, this creates a major safety concern because the only way to dial a bend in one of two ways. The first, dangerous way is to add a little more to your bend hoping to hit 90, and hold the part on the bend line against the punch at the top and essentially ride the punch down until it contacts the die to make the bend again. This leaves a large gap where you can accidentally trap your fingers between the part and the die or the part and the punch.
The second way is to record your end position from the automated bend, go into manual mode and add a really small amount to the end position while making the start position lower. This is a total guessing game for the most part and adds a couple steps to your setup. It is also frustrating if multiple repeat bends for a production part have to be made.
My primary suggestion is removing the bend cancel and simply making the machine pause if you release the pedal. In doing this, we would eliminate the overall frustration of an an accidental cancel in general, as well as allow you to lower the ram to a position where you can safely line your part up, and continue the bend.
My second workaround would be to at a minimum allow an override of the start position, which would let you move the part below the 0 plane of a flat plate and start above your already bent part giving you a way to line the part up with your hands out of the way.