Ohmic Circuit add-on to my Crossfire

I wanted to share my solution for the ever frustrating issue with flexing or bowed material during IHS. I installed an Ohmic Circuit of my own design on my Crossfire and just recently uploaded 14 short videos to my youtube channel for viewing. It’s working great and the flexing problem during IHS on thinner materials is a thing of the past! No need to try and clamp down thin material to address the flex that occurs during the downward travel of the torch during IHS. I’m including a link to my channel if anyone is interested in checking out the videos.

WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE LINK HOVER OVER THE “YouTube” TEXT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN AND CLICK ON “WATCH THE VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE” TAB OR YOU’LL MISS VIDEO 11).

The link will direct you to the playlist where the videos are posted and they are labeled starting at Ohmic 1 and so on. Due to my unfamiliarity with setting up the channel (I just set it up over the last two days) one video uploaded as a short (#11) so in order to see all of the related videos one must view the playlist which has all the videos in order (1-14).
And here are a couple of pictures of my circuit.
Leave a comment if you’d like.


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Interesting contact cap on your torch. It’s interesting that the plasma shape isn’t affected by the shield.

I didn’t watch all the videos, TL;DR, having mostly skipped to 10 and 12 to see what you were actually doing. In video 13 it seemed as if the sheet moved as the torch touched it, just as it would with the normal IHS. I’m not sure if that was an optical thing or it actually moved, but a far better test would be a thinner piece that was warped from cutting as a more realistic test and demonstration.

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Hello,
You are correct that the material in video 13 flexed down a bit during IHS when the ohmic circuit was enabled. And there’s a reason for that occurring that I forgot to mention in the videos. I’ll have to add an additional video explaining the reason behind that as it does not interfere with the correct Z axis sync during IHS.
Videos 4 through 8 explain the difference between Z axis sync during IHS with and without the ohmic circuit enabled and why the ohmic circuit works. Operation is verified visually with the DMM and the Firecontrol screen.
But the reason the material will flex downward slightly during the Ohmic IHS loop is because Firecontrol continues to drive the torch assembly downward for a fraction of a second after the IHS relay contacts open. Firecontrol will not start the upwards motion of the torch until it senses that the IHS contacts have remained opened long enough so there is a short lag from the time the IHS contacts open and the point that the downwards motion of the torch stops. The flex in the material that you see in the video is the lag time. At that point the torch starts its upward motion and when contact is broken between the Ohmic cap on the torch and the material the Ohmic IHS contact closes and Firecontrol will then zync the Z axis as being at the top of material. So it doesn’t matter that there is some springback of the material because the IHS zync doesn’t occur until the contact with the material is broken and by that time the material is back where it needs to be for correct zyncing.
I’m including a quote from Aksel Langmuir on this topic from one of my communications with him if you care to read on. It was his response to the lag time that I was seeing.

“To answer your second question, the answer is a bit complicated. If you watch the brass IHS contacts closely while simply jogging the Z-axis up and down its full travel length several times, you may notice that the contacts will momentarily separate from one another, them almost immediately snap back together. Some variance in the bearings and variance in the preload of the bearings to the linear rails causes this to occur randomly every once in awhile. During the IHS loop, FireControl will monitor how long the brass contacts are separated, and if they stay separated for long enough (still only a fraction of a second), then it will stop driving the Z-axis downward. Once the downward movement has stopped, IHS moves the Z-axis back upward until the brass contact switches are back in contact- this is when the Z-axis is zeroed.”

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Well, in any case, if you want a real test of how good it is, you can try this: In this example I used a 15mil sheet of copper foil as the ‘workpiece’. Obviously I wouldn’t cut that with a plasma cutter, but it does provide a very effective measure of the quality of the ohmic sensor and, @langmuir-aksel 's point about over travel, should be the case no matter what material was in the ‘way’, it’s a constant that should be able to be cancelled regardless.

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Looks like a better investment then limit swithces

I’m assuming your circuit in the box is something like this? It’s what I thought of doing.

Hello,

I’m sorry but the circuit design is proprietary as I’m going to Beta test it sometime later this year here in Southeast Michigan with a few local Crossfire end-users. If things work out I’ll be marketing it as an Add-on to the Langmuir series of plasma tables.

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I’m in livonia with a crossfire xr if you’re looking for people to test!

I’ll buy one now.

Hello,
I’ll save your contact information and contact you when I have some test units available. I hope to have something ready by late fall. Thanks for reaching out!

Hello,
Thanks for reaching out! I don’t have anything available yet. I still have some further testing to do.

I will also be anxiously waiting for it to be for sale