Does anyone use a Liability Waiver form with your customers?
If so, have a sample I could look at?
Cheers
What kind of lawsuit are you worried about?
Civil obviously but in what respect.
Not specifically “worried” about anything , Just looking into what others might be doing out there.
But feels like a prudent thing to do considering the world we live in.
Take’m to the train station…
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this is strange…what are you needing a waiver for?
if you are doing signage…nope
bottle openers …nope
wind spinners…nope
Brackets for motor mounts…then this is a business and you should get business insurance if you are into that level of production
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Why Strange? Sure, l have liability insurance. But why preclude something that affects your premiums if sued. if the customer waives the right to sue.
Say you build a customer designed suspension or steering part. They install it on their truck, it fails through no fault of yours but they try to blame you?
Still going to court, but instead of having to prove you built a quality component, that may or may not have contributed to their incident. And that yes, you’re not an engineer, but built it to their specs etc. now you just present the signed waiver, judge confirms it wasn’t signed under duress. And most likely your dismissed from court.
Far cheaper for your lawyer fee thank a full blown trial.
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@riderat
Jim, you have answered you own question…
you first comment on this was vague…and now this answer clarifies what you are looking for…
if you are worried then go for it…but think of all the car parts that are purchased from your local supplier…do any of them make you sign a waiver?..
if you want you can attach a basic tag stating the basics…but if I were a customer going to someone to gegt some parts and they made me sign a waiver first…I would go elsewhere…
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Good points. I wouldn’t consider a waiver for everyday jobs.
And consider that the parts from the auto store have been engineered, tested, etc.
The parts I make are either designed by “non-engineers” or are prototypes.
With automotive parts like this invoice it as “prototype part for testing purposes only” and then after that it’s in their hands.
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I worked in new model development for Toyota. In US anyway, auto manufacturers have to apply for federal permits to put any proto parts on roadways. Not a “blanket approval” but case by case. It’s really expensive. You also can’t sell parts for use on a vehicle once they’ve been designated as prototype. They have to be a production level part.
Better just get the LLC paperwork in before selling auto parts. Otherwise, you could be sending a lawyer’s kids to college.
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Good points . I was just investigating changing from a Sole Proprietor to an LLC.
Thanks
a lawyer told me that a liability waiver isn’t woth the paper it is printed on
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@metalmaster1 best answer given so far.
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