Morning @ScottNH
For the bigger piece I would start by bending the two outside lips first. (Orange)
The dot is the side of the material that would be in the brake and the line the brake itself
Next I would feed all the material in up to the (yellow) line dot Inside the brake.
Then pull the material ahead to the (green) line and do your final Bend.
This would bend up fairly easily in my leaf break with this method.
As far as the small offset or z bar, the way I go about bending these on my break is I kink both lines very slightly to start and then keep flipping it around while working up the bends to their final position.
But a small kink on both lines to start I find is the key
Some of these larger pieces I’ll use the French cleat hanger system on.
These ones were 14 gauge and I did put a series of relief holes to make it Bend a little easier.
