I have purchased quite a few dfx files off the internet and noticed that some of them are not able to be extruded out in fusion 360 to create a piece that can be set up to cut I/E only part of it will hi-lite when you try to extrude it. I was able to speak with one of the seller/creators and I told him I was using fusion 360. he told me that I should try to import the svg file instead that its the native format he uses in inkscape to create the file, and that he uses the dxf with sheetcam. not sure if any of this makes sense to anyone but would appreciate any help or suggestions anyone might have since i dont have the ability to create my own stuff yet and while its not real expensive at the moment over time its also not real cheap purchasing these files if they continue to not work. as usual thanks in advance for any and all help or advice.
just a side note : Fireshare here has some files and Plasmaspider has a share files area. 20 bucks you can have access to it. Some cool files there. There are other sites I have not checked out. I buy a few dxf files off ebay. After a few bad ones I only buy from one person there. Never a bad file yet from the individual. Im not promoting or nonpromoting anyone. Just my personel experiences.
You can insert an SVG into Fusion the same way you do DXF.
The problem with purchased files is you don’t know what they were made for - lots of difference between print, Cricut type machines, lasers and plasmas. Even within a type of machine you’ll find files that work on one laser or plasma won’t on another one.
I’ve had to tweak almost every file I’ve ever gotten from someone else. It’s part if the price if the file
You can do tweaks (closing loops, cleaning up duplicate lines, increase spacing between cuts, etc) in Inkscape or other design software and then save as SVG or DXF file formats for Fusion or Sheetcam.
Inkscape is free but Corel or Adobe Illustrator work fine too if you prefer those apps.
I guess its time to learn Inkscape
If you ever need help making a file feel free to contact me I’m really cheap
Thanks so much that sounds great and I will keep that in mind. However I have not had much of Any experience with theses design programs. Have I heard of them Oh Yeah, Have I seen them OH Yeah but to actually work with them OH no.
cont. So I guess I might be the second or even the 3rd, 4th, or even 5th user to say this. Is there anyone in this community willing to teach design, setup, post process, Inkskape, Corel, Autocad to those of us who can afford it, LOL:joy: or anything else necessary to those of us willing to pay to learn this system more effectively. My background has always been hands on and self taught, yet I always seemed to have at least had someone that was a Journeyman Master Carpenter Master Plumber Etc. Willing to start me down the Rite path.
Just to be CLEAR
“by afford it i meant paid for software programs that are not open source”
Not to change the subject, But. Im sure there will be different opinions. If you purchase a file Is it your property to share with others? Im asuming by paying for it you own that copie of the file. Im not talking about reselling it. Just sharing it. Let the Opinions roll. Thanks Jim
Yes Sir And if my Ability to become proficient enough in design and editing these files we use would be become something I can teach, share, and strengthen, back into our community of users, I like you would be happy to do so.
Yes.
Or no.
It depends. If it’s from a designer or a website or someone who draws things for a living, you probably bought a license to use the file, not the file itself or the rights to share it or even use it to make something to sell.
However, if you didn’t make anything with it and the license doesn’t prohibit it, you can give or sell the file to someone else. If the license doesn’t allow it then usually that means you can’t - licensed intellectual or creative work typically reserves any rights not explicitly granted to the licensee (buyer) to the creator. (But due to software, there are “reasonable” exceptions to this that allow you to treat it as physical property.)
If you buy it from an individual creator and they don’t tell you that you’re licensing it, then you can generally treat it like real property and give or sell it to someone else. However, you can’t sell multiple copies or create a bunch of copies of work created using it because all copyrights (in the U.S. anyway) reside in the creator regardless of whether you’re told about it or not.
Most websites that provide files have a couple of possible licenses - either a personal or commercial license. The difference being the first usually allows you to make things from it to give away but not to make copies of the file or give it away. Typically you need to purchase a commercial license to be allowed to make things from it and sell them.
The commercial licenses often have restrictions in how many things you can make and even what kind of things you can make using the file.
By the way - generally you are not allowed under almost any license to make and claim as your own “derivative” works where you use it as part of another design that you create. Mashups like that are considered to be the property and creation of the original artwork’s creator even if you drew 3/4 of the new thing.
There are lots of special cases, fair use exemptions and such, but you’re safest if you assume you can’t share any files and you can’t sell anything you made unless you have a document or recorded statement of some sort explicitly saying you can.
Thank you James. Can you please type that backwards? ( joking) So one shoud ask the seller what there rules by law are?
Yep. Websites are good because they almost always have the license posted.
A lit of stuff is now sold or provided under a CC (creative commons) license. Those are generally good in that they allow you to do most anything you want as long as you don’t sell the file or derivative copies of it but you can modify it all you want (usually you’re asked to give attribution to the original artist - credit where credit is due) and you can make and sell things.
Be careful with commercial licenses. I just saw a site that was selling files with “unlimited commercial licenses”. Buried in the actual license was you couldn’t use it to create things that were primarily composed of the file or image. So you could make a website page where it was a small part of a background image…but you couldn’t make a picture with it or engrave it with a laser or cut it out of wood or steel because the primary component of the thing made was the artwork. ️
Disclaimer: The files within this listing are computer files drawn in Vector format for use with a CNC controlled cutting machines, Plasma ,Waterjet, Laser, Vinyl, Screen printing, Scrapbooking machines, Etc. You will NOT receive a physical item. You will receive a CD with the listed files. No metal, paper, vinyl, wood items, you will receive the files necessary to manufacture the item/items. This all it says.
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GREEK GREEK ,GREEK GREEK, GREEK 300 ROMAN GREEK.
SIGNED NOT GREEK
My apologies however I am glad there are those of you out there that can steer us through such troubled waters if need be. yet this is somewhat how I feel when I am trying to wrap my head around this stuff. So Can I legally share the files i have that don’twork for me yet ive purchased and own with anyone and not ask for any monetary compensation or even ask for them back, but should you happen to correct what doesn’t work for me and show others that it does and return it to me as a working file arn’t we all ok ???
That is a hash of a license (if it’s a license - probably wouldn’t stand up because it doesn’t say it’s a license and it doesn’t delineate any rights - either granted or reserved). That’s more of a “terms of sale” but even that isn’t good.
It says you don’t get any physical product but then it says you get a CD which by all accounts is a physical thing
Bet they stole the language from someone else’s site and hacked it up. Probably from an eBay or other listing showing stuff made from the files and they’re worried someone will claim they thought they were buying the items and not the files and want their money back. They need a lawyer.
Iwas gonna ask if a cd was a physical item lol. And thank you for sharing you knowledge ones again. Ok Art thank you for the space here. Im done rambling taking from you topic.
Ahha…that touches on another part of the law that’s more in your favor. If you bought the files to cut things - like they’re sold for CNC use - and they don’t work, then you can definitely make reasonable attempts to make them work including enlisting the help of others. The UCC and warranties of implied merchantability apply. Those are the laws that that apply to selling things and if something is sold it must be able to be used for the purpose it was sold for.
You’d be okay doing what you propose. The file fixer could also make something of it to verify the fix but couldn’t sell the file or the thing made.
What if you made a file from scratch that resembles one you seen?